Can an anonymous myspace account be an electronic signature
I spend a lot of time thinking about what is an electronic signature. We follow guidelines such as New York State’s Electronic Signature and Records Act (ERSA) Guidelines. Justin had a good blog post on this.
Justin wrote how Therap achieves these by:
- By having staff sign off on your statement of intent and/or electronic use/signature policy.
- Therap’s electronic signature on each page is tied to the user though our three-part log in
- Therap’s extensive physical, software, hardware, and network security along with the prevention of direct user access to the data protect your signature. This combined with update and activity tracking ensure that you know exactly who does what in your system.
- Therap has affirmative save, submit, approve and other buttons on pages.
We spend a lot of time and effort making sure that Therap is acceptable as an electronic signature. And even then many providers are concerned and ask questions.
Then today on the CYB3RCRIM3 I found a blog post called Authenticating a Pseudonymous MySpace Posting
by Law Professor Susan Brenner.
From the blog post it seems one side argued that anyone could have posted certain information which the state wanted to include in the trial. The prosecution apparently cited
And
The inherent nature of social networking Web sites encourages members who choose to use pseudonyms to identify themselves by posting profile pictures or descriptions of their physical appearances, personal background information, and lifestyles. This type of individualization may lend itself to authentication of a particular profile page as having been created by the person depicted in it. That is precisely what occurred here. The Court of Appeals ultimately decided that the printout HAD been authenticated:
There is further information on this case on cyb3rcrim3. This blog discusses many interesting legal cases involving the internet.
I realize there is more to the case described above than it being an electronic signature. But when I think about the issues we have had with many surveyors and providers regarding concerns of how to know something is really an electronic signature -and then I read how a myspace account is used by the state prosecution in a murder trial – it just seems like different government agencies are taking different interpretations.
When we see an electronic signature we go to intent – to prove someone intended to sign something. In the case described the issue was basically proving someone was behind the information in the myspace account.
But an interesting issue is raised of whether items like photographs and childrens names (which are essentially public information) can be used to prove signature or even ownership of an account.
A Few Thoughts Now that the 2010 Provider Administrator Conference is over
What a hectic couple of weeks of ideas and discussions and conferences this has been.
We had our best conference ever. (I am already talking with the hotel about the 2011 provider administrator conference – and we have our next side-by-side technology conference with College of Direct Support in Kansas City, Missouri in May).
We had discussions on major issues which Justin summarized quite nicely in his blog including Access Simplification, Multi-Access Provider System, and Cross Organization Information Sharing.
Lots of discussions on Electronic Signatures. A lot of information on OMRDD requirements for electronic signatures in New York. I am looking forward to the Missouri conference and having equally intense conversations about electronic signatures with Therap users in Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, Arkansas and other states.
It was also our one time each year that the whole Therap team gets together in one place. It was also nice to have had discussions and spend time with people like Bonnie, Bryan, Bill, Vanessa and so many others. And Cheryl and Terry who may have been the only people who remember Therap from before 5.0. We missed Renee- and hope she feels better for next years conference. It wasn’t the same without you.
In terms of next year – we look forward to even more sessions and discussions. Although now that we put together a schedule with sesssions running through lunch- i will add that 15 minutes back to at least get the food to bring to the sessions. And Justin has even agreed to discuss my planning evening sessions.

A User Group I Can Walk To
We recently posted information about a New York City User Group meeting for November 20 to be hosted by Services for the Underserved.
Our user groups are often held as webinars over the phone and internet. We also hold many meetings in person. We recently held meetings in Buffalo and Monitcello New York as well as Washington DC and Hartford, CT.
One benefit for me personally for a New York City User Group is that the meeting will be close enough to my house that I could actually walk to the meeting after dropping my kids at school and still be on time. I will probably take the subway though -as it is about 3 miles from where I live.
The New York meetings will have a mix of national and local issues – including using Therap to help comply with OMRDD regulations, discussions of electronic signature issues in New York, medicaid service coordinator issues and more topics.
There is a longer list on the site including phone user groups for North Dakota and South Dakota. The Oregon user group will be incorporated into the conference being held in Salem, Oregon in 2 weeks. And of course we have our annual national provider administrator conference coming up in Fishkill, NY in February

Baseball Decisions and Public Analyses
I read an interesting blog post on FanGraphs attempting to quantify the potential benefit of Yankees Manager Joe Girardi pinchrunning Freddy Guzman for Alex Rodriquez in the 9th inning of a baseball game (excerpted below)
Now, we have to eliminate all the plays where speed won’t really matter – either runner could easily score on a ball that gets to the wall, given that they’d be running on contact with two outs. Neither runner likely scores on a blooper down the line that just finds the chalk or a ground ball past the first baseman that hooks into the corner. The ball has to get past the outfielders for there to be a play at the plate, but not so far past them that they couldn’t get it back in fast enough to make it close at home.
So now we’re talking about a fraction of those one in twenty odds. The real odds of that one specific play happening? One in 50? One in 75? It’s somewhere in there.
I must admit that I find those type of mathematical analyses more interesting that most. But the reason for this post is not to disseminate information about Yankee pinchrunning decisions. And its not to just mention baseball in a Therap blog post- as Justin has not tagged the Mets since June 9.
I started thinking about how much essentially free societal statistical analyses and resources are employed analyzing baseball decisions when compared with equivalent analyses regarding providing services to people with developmental disabilities. Obviously if a baseball fan blogs about a decision it doesn’t really help one team or the other gain an advantage – as the information is available to the public and both teams. But it can help provide better information to both teams.
Many other industries are using predictive markets or monitoring twitter to help in decisions.
To what extent is this happening with services and supports to people with developmental disabilities.
I did some google searches and came up with the following results
Baseball strategy blogs – 13,400,000 responses
Electronic Signature Blogs 1,060,000 responses
Baseball blogs – 53,400,000
Developmental Disability Blogs 323,000
Obviously if there really were 323,000 interesting blogs with analysis of services, supports, management issues, family issues and other topics regarding and analyzing developmental disability that would be more than enough to create some additional useful ideas – that could be implemented by more people than just say Joe Girardi deciding not to pinch-run for Alex Rodriquez in the future.
Keep in mind that many google searches return results like this for Missouri developmental disabilities electronic signature blogs – meaning the google search really is just combining the keywords and really has to do with other issues.
Missouri School of Journalism: Seven to Receive the Prestigious …
Aug 4, 2009 … The Missouri School of Journalism has awarded the Missouri Honor Medal for Distinguished … history and overcoming developmental disabilities. … which recognizes outstanding achievements in electronic journalism. … sports, technology and other subjects with signature wit and irreverence. …
www.journalism.missouri.edu/news/…/08-04-honor-medals.html – Cached – Similar
And that was about the 2nd item on the list.
But if blogs and other websites are replacing old fashioned journalism – as people like Jeff Jarvis are saying – then where are the investigative reports on how various states are dealing with electronic signatures with regard to provision of service to people with developmental disabilities. Many states have increased their analyses of records through some sort of Medicaid Inspector General or other audit procedure. States require forms to be signed contemporaneously with services in many cases. With wet ink signatures there are limits to certain audit trails. How are agencies – both governmental and private provider – balancing the tradeoffs and benefits between wet-ink and electronic documentation.
If there are lots of books and blogs about whether to walk a batter in the 9th inning of a tie game- why is there such limited analysis of signature signoffs in an industry that spends perhaps $60 billion in federal and state money annually. What sort of analysis has been done regarding how much time people spend driving paper around. Could you imagine if people – in their recreational free time and being aware of HIPAA and PHI and sensitive to agency confidentiality and other concerns –commented on how much time they spend driving paper around – and how with better or different procedures they could have saved time to spend with the people they support – or saved overtime dollars or saved gasoline.
New York OMRDD Electronic Signature Clarification
We are increasingly asked by people in various states (we now have users in about 40 states) about electronic signature policies.
Therap has been designed to meet federal electronic signature requirements. The problem is that a diminishing number of states still have wet ink requirements. That means some places still require each page have an original signature – even if they have no idea when the signature was actually put on the piece of paper.
However, what is becoming more frequent is that providers think that wet ink signature is required – when in fact it is not required by a state.
New York State OMRDD recently posted this clarification on their website.
Electronic Signature Clarification
OMRDD verified that the agency and the OMIG will accept Electronic records and Electronic signatures. This has been possible for years, based on OMRDD and OMIG policy documents and practice. OMRDD has agreed to issue clarification within the next 3 to 4 weeks on these issues. OMRDD will also ensure that the OMIG is aware of and agrees with these clarifications.
Some of the issues to be clarified include:
The OMIG verified that Electronic records and signatures are acceptable in an audit, unless regulations specifically require “hand‐written”. Electronic signatures have the same validity as a hand‐written signature. Provider must be able to authenticate that the person supposed to sign did sign.
Electronic records and signatures must meet all standing Medicaid documentation requirements and be maintained for 6 years from the date of service or payment (whichever is longer). The OMIG will not endorse any one vendor or system.
Concern from an auditing perspective is that electronic information may be overwritten. Any electronic records that show evidence of overwriting will be rejected.
The OMIG will require that all electronics records can be reproduced on paper upon request.
Provider Association members requested clarification that electronic signature on ISPs and other documentation are allowable. OMRDD committed to preparing a letter for OMIG
review, and when approved forwarding that letter to the members.
Therap is designed to help agencies meet all of these requirements.




